When was the last time you said no and felt good about it? Seriously. When?
Welcome to That’s a Hard No, the podcast about saying no and setting boundaries – without feeling fear, FOMO, or guilt.
On our show, we talk about everything related to boundaries, and why it can feel so damn scary to set them. We meet all kinds of interesting people from different walks of life with various takes on the subject, and we look at what’s happening in our culture and how it all comes back, sometimes, to simply saying no.

Meet Our Host
HEATHER DRAGO
Hi there! I’m Heather. I’m a 5O-something wife, mom, and recent cancer survivor. I’m also a small business owner. I head Clever Girl Marketing, in Cleveland, Ohio.
Now you may think that because I host a podcast about boundaries, I’m an expert in saying no. Far from it, my friend.
What I’m expert in is struggling to say no.
But you know what? I’m working on it. And it is getting easier!
Coming Soon
We can’t wait to introduce you to all the amazing people coming on the podcast this season! Here’s a sneak peak…
Sarah Saunders
AUGUST 29– Sarah Saunders, our former host, and licensed mental health therapist joins us to discuss parenting challenges, life struggles, and the best ways to support yourself through a child’s diagnosis or different needs.

Joanna Hardis
SEPTEMBER 5 – Joanna Hardis, LISW-S, joins us again (we SO enjoy these conversations) to discuss obsessive compulsive disorder or OCD. We dive into the details of what people who have OCD actually struggle with and the harm misusing the term can do for them. Often people misunderstand this diagnosis and it helps to better recognize some ways it can affect you and others.

Join The Conversation
Have a question or suggestion for the podcast? Or maybe a great boundary setting story to share with our listeners? We want to hear from you!
Send us an email using our contact form, DM us on social (we’re @hardnopodcast), or leave a message at 216-370-3410. If we think it’s helpful for our listeners, we may feature your message on an upcoming episode.