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Getting Comfortable With Being Uncomfortable

Episode 47 | December 12, 2023

Dr. Cassandra LeClair joins us to discuss how to decipher our emotional history, unravel relational patterns, and communicate authentically.

Dr. Cassandra LeClair helps us get comfortable with being uncomfortable. Look inward to reflect on what you have accomplished and what boundaries serve you!


Welcome to “That’s a Hard No”the podcast about learning to say no and set boundaries to live our best lives. 

Follow along with me as we learn from fellow strugglers and experts, so that you too can start saying no without feeling fear, guilt, or FOMO. 


Dr. Cassandra LeClair, a Clinical Associate Professor at Texas A&M University, published author, TEDx speaker, and corporate communication coach joins us to discuss how to decipher our emotional history, unravel relational patterns, and communicate authentically.
Key Takeaways
[00:02:06] Starting the journey of self-awareness

“Allow yourself to look inward, but try to let go of some of the shame, whether it’s associated with experiences that you’ve had or behaviors that you’ve done or words that you’ve said, you know, and just try to allow yourself to recognize that part of this piece of self-awareness in this journey is looking at all those pieces through a lens of These events have all made me who I am.”

[00:04:54] Forgiving our younger selves

“I think we have to forgive ourselves sometimes.”

[00:09:05] Softening judgments and assumptions

[00:11:41] Journaling as data collection

[00:15:00] Learning to say no

“We have a tendency to focus on the things that we have yet to achieve instead of also looking at the ways that we’ve improved.”

[00:19:07] Communicating personal growth

“A lot of times people don’t want you to change, they’re comfortable with the way things are.”

“So it’s really asking yourself too, like, why am I so willing to privilege other people’s feelings over my own?”

[00:23:43] Getting comfortable with being uncomfortable

[00:29:02] Communicating boundaries

“Because the thing about it is people who love you for the most part really actually do want you to be happy, right?”

[00:33:43] Setting boundaries in relationships

[00:35:40] Taking care of my needs

“This is insane. I can’t do this forever.”

[00:38:33] Conflict and resolution

Where to Find Dr. Cassandra
Credits and Thanks
  • Many thanks to our friends and families (our “villagers”) for listening, and for your continued support.
  • That’s a Hard No is a production of Clever Girl Marketing
  • Marketing and Production Coordinator, Maura Del Rosario
  • Production Support, Evergreen Podcasts, Noah Foutz, Producer
  • New Rock Anthem Music: Written by Noah, and performed by his band, The Big Leagues
  • Videographer, Kae Holmberg