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Episode 06 | December 8, 2020

Jamal Collins

In this episode, we talk with designer and educator Jamal Collins about his life and work, how he found his purpose, and how he teaches his students to say no to the “easy path” in order to find success as creators.


Welcome to “That’s a Hard No” – the podcast about saying no (in all its forms) so you can become the authentic and empowered person that this world needs.

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Jamal Collins is an incredibly talented graphic designer and visual communication design instructor from East Cleveland, Ohio. A graduate of the University of Akron, he started his career by working in the corporate world, but when the economy took a downturn around 2007, that all changed. Unemployed for five years, he explored a variety of career options, and eventually found his calling as a teacher and mentor with the Boys & Girls Clubs of America.

Jamal later founded the “Creative Kids Group,” through which he provides art education to students from grade school all the way through the college level. He also teaches adults at the PNC Fairfax Connection community center in Cleveland and continues to serve as a teacher and mentor at the Boys & Girls Clubs.

During our conversation, we talked with Jamal about his life, the lessons he imparts to his students, how teaching has changed during the COVID-19 pandemic, and so much more. We had so much fun talking with Jamal and learned so much from him. We know you’ll love learning from him too.

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